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Molly 0:00
Hi. I'm Molly.
Matthew Amster-Burton 0:05
And I'm Matthew.
Molly 0:06
And this is spilled milk, the show where we cook something delicious. Eat it all and you cannot have any because we actually literally did just eat it all.
Matthew Amster-Burton 0:13
Yes, guess what we're talking about. It's gyros.
Molly 0:16
Yes. There we go. All right, this episode. I can't remember where it came from. But I'm really glad that it arrived here at our doorstep because we just got to eat gyros for
Matthew Amster-Burton 0:26
lunch. Yeah, I'm not sure either. I think I just realized that I would like get a Euro like once or twice a year and always really enjoy it. And we've never done it as an episode and something I think many many people enjoy on a regular basis. Oh my god, that was fantastic. Or any number of related sandwiches, but we're going to narrow it down.
Molly 0:44
Okay, now that I'm thinking about it well, so I'm really I'm glad that we're doing this episode, not only because I just got to eat that, but also because I think I've tended to confuse euros with like, donate a kebab or doona kebab. Okay, I'm
Matthew Amster-Burton 1:02
glad I'm glad you're getting that. Because I always just say Donner kebab, which is definitely wrong, and
Molly 1:06
also a super blocky when I was trying to think about about my memory lane here. I was getting myself all twisted around. Because if I just think about euros, I think the last time I had euros was like the day that Brandon and I moved into the duplex in Ballard that we moved into in the summer of 2006. I remember that place my friend Keaton and her then boyfriend. Now spouse, Mark helped us move and I remember Mark ran out to Georgia as Greek, which used to be on 85th and is now I think on Lake City way. Okay. And got euros and I remember drinking like a Budweiser long neck. Nice euros when we moved into this apartment. Ah, yes.
Matthew Amster-Burton 1:56
Okay, so I don't remember for sure. The first time I had one of these, but it would have been in high school, I think because it would have been like a cheap sandwich that you could get near my high school. I don't remember having a lot of them in high school, but I'm sure I did. And then for sure, I remember getting them at the Aladdin Euro serie on the AV in when I was in college at U DUB in the early 2000s.
Molly 2:19
I think I used to eat a lot of falafel Sure, which we've already done an episode on and which is not the same thing, but has some of the same ingredients minus the mean, right. And plus other things. I think I used to have a Falafel sandwich at some place called Aladdin or some something. Yeah,
Matthew Amster-Burton 2:38
that's probably the same place. I think it's still open. I think it has moved locations maybe since the early 2000s. But it was always considered like the best and cheapest Euro place on the app.
Molly 2:49
Okay. Well, so part of the reason that I got a little confused with memory lane is that so ash and I went to Greece in 2018.
Matthew Amster-Burton 2:57
Yeah. Did you eat euros or something similar? No. And I will
Molly 3:01
we did have like lamb prepared in a way that is very, I mean, lamb that was really tender and in stripped sort of, but that was served in a dish as part of a whole bunch of other like, little dishes at a restaurant in Athens. Sure, but I'm not sure that it was prepared in the Euro way. Okay,
Matthew Amster-Burton 3:19
so I put on the agenda, like what this is, so maybe we should talk about that before we get into the history, which is very complicated. And then Mr. Etymology,
Molly 3:29
and then maybe we can get back to this issue of the Duna. Oh, well, for sure. Okay. Right now I am just I know I'm butchering it. And I'm hoping to do better by the end of the episode. Okay,
Matthew Amster-Burton 3:44
so this is I mean, I'm not sure how that's gonna happen since I don't have a better pronunciation than you but we'll we'll give some some like historical context. Okay. So we are talking about a sandwich like you know, often it's also available as like a Euro platter, but we're really talking about the sandwich here that consists of usually a mix of ground beef and lamb that has been carved off of a like rotating vertical rotisserie stack, and then put into a warmed or grilled pita, with a set of fillings or toppings that usually consists of like Satsuki, lettuce, tomato, red onion, and that's that's usually about
Molly 4:25
number number. Yes. So hold on. Is this thing? Like? Does it actually have origins in Greece? Or does this is this thing like an Americanization of a dish from elsewhere?
Matthew Amster-Burton 4:38
I'm so glad you asked. Because it's so much more complicated than that. So first off, euros as a dish does exist in Greece, but as far as I could tell, is almost always made with pork, rather rather than a mix of beef and
Molly 4:54
steak. What did you happen to note what part of grace it's from?
Matthew Amster-Burton 4:59
Me No and the other thing and like we'll jump around a little here is that it seems that it became popular in Greece and North America at the same time. So this is not like a traditional Greek dish that came to North America after being enjoyed enjoyed in Greece for hundreds of years. This is something that like found a home in multiple places and is based on a much earlier sandwich. Okay, which is the dinner kebab.
Molly 5:28
You know, this has reminds me of Coronavirus Yeah COVID-19
Matthew Amster-Burton 5:33
It's It's kind of like that but but considerably tasty right
Molly 5:36
popped up in multiple places at once it has its origins and probably an older thing Yeah, yeah.
Matthew Amster-Burton 5:41
So man Where do we even go with this? I've got to hold Mr. Etymology segments.
Molly 5:47
I have no idea but Matthew You texted me ahead of time and you were like wow euros are so fascinating like you just you wait and I was like okay, I'm not going to read the agenda so I can't even help you with where to begin Okay, so figure it out. This dish
Matthew Amster-Burton 5:59
originated in Turkey or what is now Turkey which then the Ottoman Empire probably didn't originate in did not originate in Greece or in North America was not however called euros we'll get into the Word euros in a minute. What it originated as dooner kebab is probably what it was called, okay. And it was like a you know, a hand stacked vertical rotisserie of meat. That would be carefully grilled and then the like the charred and juicy edges carved off with like a scimitar bar and put into a warm to bread. And I've had there used to be a wonderful Turkish sandwich place on Broadway many years ago called that Bistro on Talia that served this kind of sandwich that was probably not super different from how it originated. So good.
Molly 6:45
I remember having Duna kebab in Berlin. Yes,
Matthew Amster-Burton 6:49
that is that is the name that it goes by in Berlin and then in Canada, it's called Donaire to Ayar.
Molly 6:57
Wow. Okay. Like, like, kind of like Conair it is kind
Matthew Amster-Burton 7:01
of like Connett Yes, yes. It's often served by hairdryer Nicolas Cage. Oh, I think it's a movie about a movie where Nicolas Cage found it's a classic movie but business Nicolas Cage fans a very successful hairdryer company, but then goes bald himself, and it's very ironic. Okay, so I have to, I have to find this photo. I should have put it in the agenda. But there is a photo taken in the Ottoman Empire in 1855 of a Donner kebab vendor. That is amazing. Well, that's not how you spell it. It's time for it's everyone's favorite segment. That's not nice. That's not how you spell it. Okay, here we go. Check this out.
Molly 7:53
Oh my god, this is amazing.
Matthew Amster-Burton 7:56
It's in the show notes. This is this is an incredible historical photo of this like that. That looks like you you would absolutely want to go to this food stand right now. Oh,
Molly 8:06
this is truly remarkable. Yeah, so we've got these these people standing around a table and you can absolutely see the meat stack on its rotisserie and there appears to be like a raised like maybe ring for gas cooking. Might have been a thing in the 18th I
Matthew Amster-Burton 8:22
don't it wouldn't have been gas but like charcoal maybe or so. That's
Molly 8:28
right there could be coals Yeah. Okay. Cool. Yes, it's very cool.
Matthew Amster-Burton 8:33
The concept of this kind of sandwich like you know, it's stayed stayed in that region for a long time and then quickly spread out after World War Two and was introduced to Greece after World War Two by immigrants from Turkey and the Middle East which is the Middle East's. So then the fast food Euro like you know, thinking of is like like, you know, a quick inexpensive convenience food developed in Greece and the US at approximately the same time in the early 70s. And wow,
Molly 9:06
wait a minute this so this like sandwich Yep. In the form that we just ate it is a really new invention and
Matthew Amster-Burton 9:14
in the form that we ate it was developed by Greek immigrants to Chicago in the 1970s. Okay,
Molly 9:20
oh, this is so interesting. Okay. And before that, it really only sort of made its way out of Turkey after World War Two with like waves of grace Yeah, okay.
Matthew Amster-Burton 9:30
And it is also very closely related to ALPA store, as in tacos ALPA store as served in Mexico and many other places. And in what way is it related? Our pet store is a rotating meat stack and they usually put a pineapple on top and carve off some of the meat and a little bit of the pineapple put it in a tortilla. I
Molly 9:48
love this.
Matthew Amster-Burton 9:49
Absolutely a related sandwich. Okay. Okay. So do not do not add us about whether a taco is a sandwich. Yeah.
Molly 9:57
That save that one for Dan Pashman Exam. equity. Okay, wait, hold on. Yeah, we I, there's so much more I want to talk about but I feel like we need to talk about pronunciation.
Matthew Amster-Burton 10:06
Okay, so first off, I watched yesterday because I was curious about like, what is the Euro meet? Of course, and we'll get into that. Yeah. But I want to know like, how do you say it I watched so I watched this, this New York Times video about like, how they make the Euro Mead. And the person from the New York Times was saying gyro and then I did more research and like gyro is a totally accepted pronunciation in North America for this. Yeah. Okay. So like, if you see like the other Cronos foods poster, it'll say pronounced D Rose, and many people do including me. But gyro is also very popular and like, enough so that, you know, this is an American sandwich that we're talking about. And I don't have any problem with people calling it a gyro
Molly 10:44
great. I mean, I guess it makes a lot of sense. When I think about like, Greek roots are the roots of words right? Like gyroscope that Yeah, yeah, that's
Matthew Amster-Burton 10:54
also a Greek sandwich. There's just spins faster. And like you could like, set it off the table stands up by itself. You
Molly 11:01
I mean, I broke my tooth once on one though, so you gotta be really careful what you like you let it go. And like, like, no, no, I mean, biting into a gyro.
Matthew Amster-Burton 11:10
I'd say sorry. I didn't. Yes, yeah. Do you there? We went to a toy store in Tokyo that specialized in tops and spinning tops is hard. I've made me feel really, there's
Molly 11:18
Wait a minute, there was an entire toy store. Especially tops. Okay.
Matthew Amster-Burton 11:22
It's specialized really to fix tops, and like paper mache animals with bow with like, bouncy necks.
Molly 11:29
I love it. I love Okay, so this this is like the whenever I think of like the specialization of restaurants in Japan, there's so many great examples, but I always think of like an eel restaurant. Yeah. And this is the eel restaurant of Toy
Matthew Amster-Burton 11:45
Story. Totally is they had some of those tops. Yeah, the ones that you spin and then they like flip upside down and keep spinning. Like I could not make it do that. Other people were like, yeah, check this out. I'm like
Molly 11:58
okay, but oh, by the way, are we going to talk about the pronunciation of Do you know? Do
Matthew Amster-Burton 12:03
I cuz I figured this was the Euro episode that I didn't look it up. Should we should we pause and like find a pronunciation guide. Alright, let's do it. Google says American pronunciation Donner kebab, but let's see British pronunciation. Dona kebab. How do you say it in Turkish? Okay,
Molly 12:22
here we go. Yeah.
Matthew Amster-Burton 12:24
donar kebab.
Molly 12:25
Okay, what about with a German accent? Okay. That's the Turkish one.
Matthew Amster-Burton 12:34
I know. I wanted to play it again.
Molly 12:37
Okay, well, so if the Oh, the long Oh, it's a dip song as in the words bone and Rose long. Oh, is a dip thong. So that would be donor.
Matthew Amster-Burton 12:50
I like I feel like I want little NAS X to me because like the logo is a dip thug. I feel like it'd be really fun to hear him say I'm saying that. Okay,
Molly 12:59
so it seems like it would be reasonable to say like, Could you do it again? donar kebab. donar kebab. Yep. Okay. All right. That
Matthew Amster-Burton 13:07
phrase might not come up again. We'll see. Okay, you ready for Mr. Etymology? That wasn't Mr. anabolics. That was Mr. Pronunciation. Wait
Molly 13:17
a minute. Where's Mr. Oh, here's Mr. Adam. I
Matthew Amster-Burton 13:19
told you we're skipping around. Okay. Wow, I'm
Molly 13:21
so confused. Okay, go on.
Matthew Amster-Burton 13:30
Okay, so remember the tamale episode where we talked about how English speakers took the Spanish word tamales, and said, Okay, that looks like a word tamale with an S on it. Like we would Pluraleyes something in English and said okay, we're gonna make a new word tamale. Right, right, right, tamale that's called That process is called back formation instead of tamale, right? Just what it was, which is Spanish right? Back formation happened to euros also in a slightly different way. Okay. All right. The Greek word euros is singular. Okay, so it is a singular word that refers to the rotation of the meat stack. Okay, that word started with the giant with the gyroscope. Yes. Okay. Okay, go on. And that word like came to be used in Greece, partially because of xenophobia. Because Greek nationalists were like, we can't have our favorite sandwich be be a Turkish word. Like it has to be a Greek word. Let's call it euros. So that was successful, apparently. And then when it became a popular food in America, starting in the 70s are like, okay, euros, obviously, that's a plural word because it ends with an S. So one of the must be a euro or gyro. And so that's where we get the singular information.
Molly 14:47
Okay. So like, I'm going to have a euro. Yes.
Matthew Amster-Burton 14:51
So like, in Greece, you would say I'm going to have a euros. The i o phrase.
Molly 14:56
I used to get a little bit confused when people talked about like he Euro sandwich. I did too. I used to think that they were like pronouncing euros in some way that I didn't understand yet.
Matthew Amster-Burton 15:10
Like, when he was
Molly 15:12
like in Spanish a hero is like a sub sandwich like on a different kind of roll.
Matthew Amster-Burton 15:17
I think it's just another name first stuff one of many names for a sub sandwich. Yeah,
Molly 15:21
okay. Wow we are covering a lot of ground yeah we're doing a lot of debunking of
Matthew Amster-Burton 15:27
we are Yeah, things were things were significantly bunked until we came along.
Molly 15:33
We wrote hero does not equal Euro. Wait,
Matthew Amster-Burton 15:36
I just realized that a few a few months ago. I took I took December's bunk bed and removed and and recycled the top debunks it. Yes. I never want to at the time did I did I go around saying like, I'm gonna debunk this bed, which seems like exactly the sort of thing I would say. Right? Yeah. It's weird that
Molly 15:58
you miss that opportunity. Okay,
Matthew Amster-Burton 16:01
okay. So many people claim to have invented the American Euro sandwich. And we will talk about what sets the American version apart. And I don't want to get into like, you know, like this person said they invented it at this place. But one of those people was named John garlic. Like, spelled like Joshua. Just like actual garlic. Love that guy.
Molly 16:23
All right.
Matthew Amster-Burton 16:24
So the thing that sets the American Euro apart is that mystery meat? Oh, it's clearly you know, some kind of very finely ground and compressed and seasoned meat substance that gets like sliced off into into pieces in your sandwich. So what is it? I certainly did not know the answer. Hold on. Yeah.
Molly 16:44
Wait a minute, when it first started out, presumably like in the original like Turkish version? Oh, yeah. So it was a meat stack? Right? What would that have been? So
Matthew Amster-Burton 16:54
that would have been like, you know, slices of some kind of tender meat that had been like marinated or seasoned and like hand stacked onto onto the rotisserie and so there are definitely places that still do that.
Molly 17:07
I've definitely seen Yeah, is it still done that way? In Greece or in Greece? Is it ground as well?
Matthew Amster-Burton 17:15
That is a good question. And I don't know the answer. I think it is probably still done that way with porque in Greece okay. But I Greek listeners who in Greece or have been degrees and had a Euro there let us know or a euros
Molly 17:28
and so in the states though what we think of as a as euros or what here we may call American Euro second gyro American gyro is almost always going to be made from a like a very finely ground meat stuff. Yeah.
Matthew Amster-Burton 17:45
Is that what that movie American Gigolo was about? Exactly Okay. And that meat stack is most likely going to come from Kronos foods, which was founded in Chicago in 1970. Store that eats its own children. Is that like, oh, like, was Cronus a Titan? Yes. Yes. That's what it is. Yeah, he
Molly 18:03
was. He was Zeus, his father and the father of like, a whole bunch. And remember, he, he was my father. His wife was Raya. And uh, he he like kept eating his kids because
Matthew Amster-Burton 18:14
they were so juicy.
Molly 18:19
Okay, but anyway, when I see a baby, she got really she got really, baby she dressed up like a rock and swaddling clothes or something, and he swallowed it. Oh, and for some reason, the gyroscope for some reason it made him vomit up all of his children who were still hold in his belly. Well, I mean,
Matthew Amster-Burton 18:38
things things were things were different things were better back. Some excuses were weakened, a dad gave better and didn't have to, like, you know, get our like, indicted and stuff. And
Molly 18:50
he wouldn't hurt them at all. Like they would emerge and they would still try again tomorrow. Anyway, I think that's how the story goes. Please don't ask me if it doesn't go like that. I'm just doing it from memory.
Matthew Amster-Burton 19:02
That very convincing that's like an area of Greek mythology that I don't know very well.
Molly 19:06
Basic Greek mythology. What's the part you do know? Well,
Matthew Amster-Burton 19:10
basic Greek mythology is like the labors of Hercules. Oh, I don't really know that like you know, you like clean some stables and then like kidnapped a dog. This is these are this is correct. I really Yes. So
Molly 19:26
I only know about like, like the minute tar and I know. I know a lot of stuff about Cersei Have you read the book? Cersei No,
Matthew Amster-Burton 19:35
I think some people in my family have Okay, so
Molly 19:40
Chronos foods so sorry. I did not mean to slander Chronos foods I just was going on it a little bit there.
Matthew Amster-Burton 19:55
Kronos foods founded in Chicago 1974 not founded by On garlic, which is what I was really hoping I was gonna say, is the world's largest manufacturer of Euro related products. And you've most likely seen their posters at your local Euro place like you know, pronounced euros and like here's a picture of a Euro like at the place where you'd already just ordered one. Their most important product is euro cones. And a Euro cone is a cone of meat and they are fruit sold frozen, and they are made of raw, very finely ground and kind of semi emulsified beef and lamb. Okay, although the beef lamb breakdown can vary, as we'll see. And we're seasoned with salt and spices and formed into like a cone shape so you can load it right onto your rotisserie and get to slice it.
Molly 20:45
It sounds kind of yucky.
Matthew Amster-Burton 20:47
They are not very pretty when they come out of the packaging. They're available in sizes ranging from 10 pounds to 40 pounds. Wow, have you ever bought
Molly 20:55
one? You could get like a 10 pounder like for a party at your house.
Matthew Amster-Burton 20:59
If you had a vertical rotisserie? Yes. Okay, Mitch, I do
Molly 21:04
have you seen those memes going around? where somebody's like taking a microwave or like a sofa and put it on its side and then it looks like it has a face something on Tik Tok? No, no, it's showed up on Instagram. We
Matthew Amster-Burton 21:24
show it because I can't even visualize what you mean. But I do want to see it. I'll do while you're looking that up. I'll just like eat two or three of my kids
Unknown Speaker 21:37
okay
Matthew Amster-Burton 21:43
Oh, wow, this is so much better than I expected. I I don't think my microwave is there for no baby. It is. Yeah. I don't think my room doesn't have dials.
Molly 21:57
I was just thinking if you did if you had like some sort of like a special fancy like countertop rotisserie, you could just turn it on its side or it might have it or it
Matthew Amster-Burton 22:07
might like like drip weirdly. Okay. Okay, so you take your microwave. It looks so happy. Yeah, it looks like there's some like cartoon character that it looks like. Like maybe SpongeBob when he's happy or something. No, I know what you mean. It's tricks rap.
Molly 22:25
There's something about it. That also reminds me a little bit of Olaf the snowman that's probably
Matthew Amster-Burton 22:30
what I was thinking. Because yeah, it was like like, what was like a like a starkly white cartoon character. Okay, okay. So not all Euro cones are the same you can order many different varieties from Kronos foods. Wow. So some of them are premium, which is all beef. I don't know what why that makes it premium. Okay. Oh, hello. Okay. Helene, which is more lamb Okay, Windy City, which seems to be like more beef less lamb. Okay, maybe like I don't know, sort of Chicago spicing and Titan and this one will be really your children like if they don't eat it first. And yeah, Titan is like they're they're like super premium offering I don't know what it is. I'm gonna guess that at all but Shaw and Broadway laughter she cries I recognize the signs you're just you're just thinking about Titans eating children. That's it
Molly 23:33
it'll eat your children if they don't need it. Like a race to the bottom.
Matthew Amster-Burton 23:39
I but I was just at the Euro place. That's what it said on the Chronos poster. Chronos it'll eat your children
Molly 23:49
I have a question. Please. Can anybody order euros?
Matthew Amster-Burton 23:53
I'm sorry.
Molly 23:54
Do you have to have like a business?
Matthew Amster-Burton 23:57
You have to have like a special license? I saw them for sale on Amazon this morning.
Molly 24:01
Oh talk about a Christmas Yes.
Matthew Amster-Burton 24:03
They are not cheap. Oh, at least you're like I think it probably cost significantly more to well, okay, first of all, I'm sure it costs a hell of a lot more to order like one then then like you know 30 Because of because after we shipped frozen and then you open the box and it's your
Molly 24:25
it's my favorite. Your favorite bit. I
Matthew Amster-Burton 24:28
was good. Okay, I'm glad we finally found it after how many episodes 625 That's five eighths of 1000
Molly 24:40
Okay, hold on. So what is it then that makes one euros plays better than another? Okay, all buying from the Titan. Okay,
Matthew Amster-Burton 24:49
so first off, like I assume that you can do a better or worse job of like charring and slicing the meat off. Also, then there's the other stuff so like Uh, you know, I think that the pizza and the sauce are the main things and like you know if you have like some sort of special thing you put in there that could go a long way like I love it when there's some kind of pickle in there. But like you know if your your Pete has got to be like well well grilled so it's so it's hot and has you know like the edge should should have like a little bit of crispness to it, I think. And the sauce like, I feel like the the, the sauce can like range in flavor intensity a lot and I don't want like a flavorful sauce.
Molly 25:29
Okay, and by sauce. We're talking Satsuki Yes. Which I if
Matthew Amster-Burton 25:33
you had like given me one of your classic Satsuki quizzes before I research for this episode, I would have said that's that white stuff. And maybe it's like yogurt or tahini or something? Oh,
Molly 25:46
okay. Yeah, no, I knew what it was. Even though I always think tXIkI ah, that is yogurt and cucumber. Yep,
Matthew Amster-Burton 25:53
that's that's it. So it's Greek yogurt, cucumber, garlic, salt, olive oil, herbs and sometimes vinegar. Okay. Yeah. And yeah, and it's, it's very refreshing on a Europe.
Molly 26:03
You can also have meat with does it just fit it ever show up in
Matthew Amster-Burton 26:07
there? Yes, the place that we I so I ordered this from all bunch on Broadway, which is where I usually get my euros from. And they have like the regular euro or the all buckshaw Euro. And I think the only difference is they put feta cheese on the all Bucha Euro. Ooh, I'm not a big feta cheese fan, so I didn't get it. I'll get you that next time because it seems like you are well,
Molly 26:27
I yeah, I do like fat. I've also seen hummus on your sandwich. I think that might be good. Okay, how so? How often do you eat these things?
Matthew Amster-Burton 26:36
So I will get them a couple times a year. And it's usually on Thursday night when I have my voice lesson with my voice teacher Doug. And if wife the show Laurie is out at a play on that night, which she goes she loves live theater and so often is out on about a play. And so then I will finish my lesson, which is right near the Euro place. I will go get a euro and then I will eat it while walking home because I like to live on the edge. Wow. And it's a messy sandwich.
Molly 27:04
Yeah, yeah. Have you ever gotten like stains on your pants or things like that from not
Matthew Amster-Burton 27:09
your? So far? I've definitely gotten like stuff all over my face. Yeah. And so probably like, like, you know, sometimes you see like scary people in my neighborhood. And I think I'm one of those people on Euro night. Yeah, for sure. Like sure what, like, you know, what's what's going on with that guy? Like, you know, his face?
Molly 27:28
Like? It seems like he forgot to take all his clown makeup off.
Matthew Amster-Burton 27:32
Exactly. That's right. That's right. Wow. Okay. Like, you know, in that movie about the scary clown. Quick Change
think it's possible I just came up with a joke that entertained me that not one single person in our fairly substantial audience is going to be down with change.
Molly 27:54
I mean, I'm sitting here going okay, Penny is too quick, as wise is to change. That's
Matthew Amster-Burton 28:02
it. That's way more clever than that I deserve credit for okay. I believe quick change was a comedy heist movie featuring Bill Murray, who dressed up as a clown and robbed a bank for maybe like 1987 and I did see this movie and I think kind of liked it, but certainly haven't made an effort to see it again. I don't think I've thought about it since then. Oh, oh, it's time for it's time for our favorite segment. That's not how you spell that. No, it's where where I look something up during the during the episode Abby, keep on.
Molly 28:37
This episode is tight. I'm not
Matthew Amster-Burton 28:39
totally confident that I got the name of this. Oh, look at that quick change a 1990 film by Bill Murray. And here's the post Bill Murray and Gina Davis. And he's dressed up as as kind of a sad clown. I feel like
Molly 28:52
that is the least like memorable movie title ever. If you were like, Oh, I just remembered. I know but quick change. I would be like a fast money or Yeah, I
Matthew Amster-Burton 29:04
know. It's no it's no points. No summit garden or Titanic. Right. But But I worked for me.
Molly 29:12
All right. Wow. This episode was filled with learning. Yeah,
Matthew Amster-Burton 29:15
I'm so glad we got to eat like can you imagine if we did this without eating one? Like no, or during or after the episode? I would feel really upset. I also
Molly 29:23
can't believe so. You know, I tend to eat more than you do at a given sitting. Yeah. And most people do very impressed that you ate that whole thing. Or usually they get to
Matthew Amster-Burton 29:35
the bottom of the year. Well, okay, I'm not I'm not in pain, but also like, I usually lunch earlier than this. I've seen you an extra little extra hungry. Okay.
Molly 29:42
All right. Well, that was delicious. Thank you, Matthew.
Matthew Amster-Burton 29:46
Do we have any spilled mail we do?
Molly 29:55
We have a letter from a listener. Tracy. May I read it? Yes, please. Hi. Molly and Matthew, I'm writing to say thank you Matthew for your definition of cran as a unit of measurement this would have been on the cranberries episode gonna say I don't I don't remember this but, but that's not unusual. Okay, when I went to summer camp in the San Juan Islands shout out to camp Northwester we sang a song called the final trawl about a fishing boats last Fruitland sale.
Matthew Amster-Burton 30:24
I love the idea of like, a bunch of kids like modern American kids singing this song. Okay,
Molly 30:32
key line was, but I fished a lifetime boy and man and the final trawl scarcely makes a cran
Matthew Amster-Burton 30:41
Do you think that when you went out and finished it didn't get any visually a boy and a man.
Molly 30:49
Okay, back to listener Tracy Sorry, I had assumed cran meant to crown and British currency not so. Now I will never have to wonder about this word again. And I can imagine a meager catch of herring dumped out onto that ship's deck as unsatisfying as the load of junk Bubba and Forrest caught on their shrimp boat before that lucky storm in Forrest Gump. Yours listener Tracy. Thank
Matthew Amster-Burton 31:14
you so much listener,
Molly 31:16
Tracy. Wow,
Matthew Amster-Burton 31:17
we saw it we saw like a lifelong mystery the listener Tracy,
Molly 31:21
but I've fished a lifetime boy and man and the final trawl script scarcely makes a credit. Do you say not a catchy song? Can I fish to lifetime? Scarcely scarcely makes a crab that's hard to say.
Matthew Amster-Burton 31:37
Do you think that any of the kids asked her teacher like what the fuck is it? And the teacher had to make something out because they certainly didn't know either. I guess they probably said it was a crowd. Uh, yeah, probably. I wouldn't I would have been like the annoying kid like what it's a cran Wow. Talk about learning I need to go get the book. Okay if I can't find the book which was literally just over there
Molly 32:01
are you going to scream
said the thing we were talking about the this sound of a train coming down the tracks and it was like
Matthew Amster-Burton 32:22
I definitely I definitely remember using that as a punch line because it's one of the best things anyway it's really the best thing Axl Rose ever saw that people people train you guys shut him in the knees and they all
okay, so okay ask me
Molly 32:57
Matthew, do you have an album Wow. I do
Matthew Amster-Burton 33:07
my novel WoW is a book it is called Chinese menu the history myths and legends behind your favorite foods by Grace Lin who is a author of many wonderful and prize winning books. And her new book is like it's a big illustrated book about Chinese menus and like the history of Chinese dishes through you know she she is someone who is an expert on Chinese myths and legends and works that in along with like the real world history of of these dishes
Molly 33:37
I saw this cover in my neighborhood bookstore a couple of weeks ago is so eye catching
Matthew Amster-Burton 33:42
it is a fascinating book because it is not a cookbook. It is kind of equally for for children and adults. I feel like and so I imagine like her editor must have like, or publisher must have like not made her life easy when she said this is the book she wanted to write. Yeah, and I'm so glad she got to do it because it is a marvelous book that's beautifully illustrated by the author. And just like helps you understand like the context of your some of probably your favorite foods a lot better in a very moving way.
Molly 34:15
Wow, what an endorsement. So that's a Chinese menu by Grayson. It's also
Matthew Amster-Burton 34:20
fun. I don't I don't want to make it sound like it's like deadly serious. Like it's a very fun book.
Molly 34:25
And I can tell that from the cup. Yeah, fantastic. Well, our producer Abby, sir. Catella has her work cut out for her indeed.
Matthew Amster-Burton 34:31
No, we told her Don't don't cut a thing. That's right. Leave all the googling in. Molly has a newsletter called I've got a feeling which I was gonna say I just sang that song at karaoke in Japan. Not true. I'd say. Don't let me down. Oh, God, that must have been so far. I've got a feeling too hard.
Molly 34:50
I have a feeling. Anyway, that's
Matthew Amster-Burton 34:53
great newsletter, Molly weisenberg.substack.com. And
Molly 34:56
Matthew writes music and is an excellent singer. and musician he plays as part of two bands one is called early to the airport. The other is called Twilight dinars and you can find both of them are everywhere you find music. By
Matthew Amster-Burton 35:12
the time you listen to this I hope I will have finished my vocals for the new for the second early to the airport EP that is my goal. writing and singing songs is hard. Of
Molly 35:22
course it is. You can rate and review us wherever you get your podcasts
Matthew Amster-Burton 35:26
and you can check in with others spilled milk listeners at everything spilled milk.reddit.com where you can find out that what like whether they've been to Greece and like how many of their kids they ate, I guess.
Molly 35:41
Yeah, well thank you for listening to this show where wow the final trawl read this like this is the fight this is the
Matthew Amster-Burton 35:51
final trawl and like you know by the time Abby cuts out all of all the googling this episode will barely make it crash. Holly wise and I'm Matthew Amster-Burton
Molly 36:09
Sorry, I just took a drink of water and then tried to talk through it, which is as everyone knows is the right way to pronounce water.
Matthew Amster-Burton 36:17
Why did I take my headphones off to look something up? I have no idea. Google says I did it again. I took my headphones off again for no reason.
Molly 36:24
This is a fascinating part of the show. Just when we sit here in silence.
Matthew Amster-Burton 36:29
Yeah, Abby, leave all of this